The TCJ.com article by Robert Steibel written for Jack Kirby's birthday on August 28th has spawned a reasonably civil debate about Stan Lee's claim for authorship of the early 1960s Marvel material. Some of the arguing kind of confuses me: I'm not sure you have to go so far as to downplay Lee's outright ability to generate plots of any kind in order to suggest that he may not have been generating the bulk of them for the 1960s stories, or that his contributions may not have been at the heart of what made those comics remarkable. But I do like some of the suggestions that there's a continuity to Jack Kirby's comics in the 1940s and 1950s that's present in the 1960s work; that's an interesting way to look at that material. I like the general level knowledge on display overall.